I think the way things are right now it’s likely the united states and europe will agree to deal with russia first and then focus on each other if necessary. No point in fighting a war on two fronts.

okay, russia drops one on the yanks, the yanks aim for russia with a bit of over kill in mind and miss and end up taking out the whole of the planet …and I drop one as well …in terror

for the record - everyone in this scenario is dropping nukes …me? I’ll just be dropping a turd …down my pants thank you very much

Russia Moves West:

Russia, wishing to expand its borders to the west, makes a push into the EU. Naturally, the EU doesn’t take too kindly to the idea of their territory being taken from them, so they send troops to their border. Immediately, fighting breaks out.

It soon becomes apparent that Russia has the upper hand: they have more armor, more transport, more aerial support, better trained troops, and more of them. They steadily push the EU troops into a retreat, at which point the EU calls on the USA to help them fight off the Russians.

The US agrees, and sends thousands of troops and armor to the EU to help them hold off the Russians. At the exact same time, the hit the Russians on the east, starting World War III.

The US troops in the EU are soon decimated along with the EU troops. The Russians simply have too many skilled troops to be held back. Even though the US is hitting them on the east, the Russians continue to push the EU, and break right into her heart, taking Germany, France, and finally England.

The EU now out of the picture, Russia withdraws a good deal of her troops (leaving just enough to put up a considerable resistance to any American attempts to invade the former EU and to hold the territory against the native peoples) to defend her eastern border. The US responds by mobilizing tanks who are armed with mini-nuclear warheads, withdrawing her infantry from the front line. These tanks taint the land with their deadly payloads, which contain enough nuclear energy to destroy whatever they hit, but to leave the tanks themselves unaffected.

The Russians don’t give in though. They continue to hit the US. Suddenly, the US is invaded on HER eastern shore by warplanes and cruisers.

After 3 more years of intense fighting, the US’ attempt to attack the Russians on her own soil collapse and she is driven back into her own territory, pursued by the Russian Army. Another year, and Russia has pushed the Americans from the east towards the interior of the continent.

It all culminates into one enormous battle, a last stand for the Americans, in Denver. The Americans have artillery perched at the mile high city, defending herself with tanks and infantry below. The Russians move in and suffer considerable losses to the artillery until she finally gets lucky enough for some of her planes to take the artillery out. The Americans have essentially been defeated, so the remainder of her infantry charges, screaming like banshees, into the Russians. Taken by surprise at such a brash act, many Russian soldiers die, many of her tanks are destroyed, and the Americans force them to temporarily retreat. The next day though, the Americans surrender, her Army broken and destroyed.

The Russians have won.

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If war had to start immediate the only course without SLAM is a nuclear war. Which means the US Britain, France, China, Russia already have enough nukes to wipe out the world 100 times overs there would be no survivors but I like my other scenario better.

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In my scenario with SLAMS. In 2008 US president Bush under the Patriot act on with the Continuity act postpones the November election declaring a state of emergency. Under the Continuity act changed in 2006 gave him power to take control of all levels of government and to declare a state of emergency himself stated to the without aid of congress.(Un-official WW3 began) In 2008 in a special broadcast in November said it would be irresponsible to leave the nation in a time of a economic crisis. Bush then went on to say he would be postponing the election to a later date. Blackwater and other PMC’s are called back. More US regulars shipped out to Iraq.

In 2009 immigrants were rounded up in large numbers. By May of 09 these immigrants were not given deportation but formed work brigades. Civil unrest was being maintained by the veteran PMC’s from Iraq . Others dissenters and US citizens against the administration were labeled as unlawful combatants and domestic terrorist given no due process under the patriot act. Also later formed into work brigades sent to the KBR build IFE facilities of 2006 with 385 billion dollar contract. Eventually by end of June 09 civil unrest was too high for the PMCs to control then Blackwater PMC killed the first American’s on American soil all other confrontation before were handled mostly because the American population didn’t understand the law’s that were passed for their own safety could also stripped their rights just as easily. Bush called in UN peace keeping forces to help the situation under PMC control. To distract the world.

Also in 2009 in January A full invasion of Iran by Us regulars and Isarealie army went under place. In three days America secured the oil fields immediately switching Iran oil from being priced in the euros to back to the Us dollar. By May Iran unlike Iraq had double the population and a lot of mountains resistance was fierce but by end of may all resistance was blockaded to the mountains taking control of the Iran bases and cities. The major base in Iran had over 300 thousand troops with many more in the surrounding area. By July 25 09 disaster struck Iran launched ICBM at Isareal and the American major base in Iran over killing over 450 thousands of Americans (including civilians and non essential staff (Soldier death toll: 300 thousand)). Number of Israelis killed the figure has still to be counted.

Oil fields in the middle east were ruined by radiation as no one could work them even Saudi Arabia suffered and lost its title of number1 exporter oil giving it to Canada with its new found oil in Newfoundland and British Columbia with coastal rigs plus northwest territories found deposits and Alberta all began by 09 pumping oil making Russia Seconded.

On the day August 15 09 the president was to host a meeting about the elections since he had been postponing for more the half a year. Disaster befell Capitol hill Washington DC a freighter 100 miles of shore of dc launched an ICBM a hit Washington. It was never proven who launched the ICBM but President bush survived the attacked being in air force one having not reach Washington from Texas. Millions dead Bush uses the reaction by the American people releases many non violent dissenters. He garnered the nation and they began to back him once again this time the emergency was real. Nuclear attack of Iran started all us troops called backed also Bush claimed the boat had been Greek flags often used by North Korean smuggles and with proof never given lost in the illusion of words and mass media controlled by the government.The Us launched against North Korea. world Outcry was huge. EU the Russian New economic power Canada China Britain French met at the Toronto summit. US never went. But after revealed that they signed the creation of SLAMS. Us declared after their declaration they would build their own.

Years to come relative proxy wars and more terrorists alerts and attacks all over the globe.

In 2011 The SLAM of the EU Russian with Canada’s help finished their slam early with the US shortly after. Peace lasted for 5 years. Before Russia invaded Canada after Canada declined and economic and military union between the two. It was massive invasion has Russian found new oil supplies to match Canada and they used their money to build up arms has Canada used their to give their people and unprecedented standard of living far beyond any other country. Canada fell fast with its own trans-Canada highway against them. EU quickly under ties from from Great Britain quickly went Canada the us also went in Quebec, Newfoundland, Ontario was split under EU control. British Columbia was eventually taken back from Russia by the US. also US led invasion in Alberta and Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario called operation Thunder hook succeeded by half. They managed to secure a foothold in Ontario and Manitoba they lost utterly by a Russian commander in Saskatchewan. They gained Alberta completely but it was a tactical retreat y the Russians back to northwest territories and Nunavut and Yukon Alaska to hold the oil fields in those states provinces. WW3 officially began. EU worked well at start but began to fell to the US and Russian, Chinese Armies. EU lacked a solid country with its member stated all retaining sovereignty they began to fall without a EU backed military force. The world began to fall in line once again with the US dictatorship or the just as evil Russian and Chinese alliance. As their were no alternatives. I think Russian with china would eventually win as their the most populated countries. Their would I think be a decisive battle lost by the the US that resulting in a turning point giving the Russian’s and Chinese the win.

WW3 one could argue started the day US canceled election and bombed & invaded Iran changing the oil supplier to Russia and Canada.
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i would say that nobody wins because Europe would probably be taken out first and Russia and US would fight it out and probably nuke each other