Left 4 Dead 2 protest group nearing 14,000 members |
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| BY Sang Nguyen Jun. 7th, 2009 | More on: |
Instead of a perpetual state of glee that Valve probably envisioned their announcement of Left 4 Dead 2 would elicit, a lot of fans are more than a bit peeved. So peeved that they started a group over at Steam that, as of this writing, is closing in on 14,000 angry, unsatisfied members. Chief amongst their complaints are (ripped straight from the home page):
- Significant content for L4D was promised, and never delivered
- Valve put little faith in L4D since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release
- The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D will decimate the community for both games
- The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes
- The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far
- L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D’s visual aesthetic
- The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome
- L4D2’s release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D content, even compared to before
- The community has lost faith in Valve’s former reputation for commitment to their games post-release
Thems fighting bullet points! Also, the video below may or may not be related.
June 7th, 2009
at 1:47 pm
* Significant content for L4D was promised, and never delivered
I don’t remember being promised anything we didn’t get.
* Valve put little faith in L4D since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release
I beg to differ, the multi-million dollar ad push says otherwise. That is a retarded argument.
* The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D will decimate the community for both games
It really isn’t though, did they even watch any of the footage or read any of the details?
* The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes
This is making development assumptions that can’t possibly be assessed by anyone by Valve.
* The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far
Opinion, a bad one at that.
* L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D’s visual aesthetic
Which is why it’s L4D2 and not an L4D expansion.
* The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome
Again, opinion. Not a valid reason to “boycott” a game.
* L4D2’s release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D content, even compared to before
What is that suppose to even mean. Again, this is assuming a lot. Do they have a crystal ball I don’t know about?
* The community has lost faith in Valve’s former reputation for commitment to their games post-release
Only the retards have.
The boycott mental patients assume a whole lot, what a bunch of BS. I say good riddance, go ahead and boycott. That’s 10,000 less morons rage quitting every 10 seconds.
June 7th, 2009
at 4:19 pm
In an interview with VideoGamer, Gabe Newell did say, “So we’ll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we’ll have the initial release and then we’ll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that’s the way you continue to grow a community over time.” That IS significant content that was mentioned.
June 7th, 2009
at 4:54 pm
yeah I can see both sides of this argument. Left 4 Dead is as it is far from the value for money players have come to expect from Valve. But I mean this is also a great way to release more content in one big way.
My main issue with this protest is how FUCKING RETARDED some of it is!
don’t complain about fiddle music, sun, characters BECAUSE IT MAKES YOUR VALID POINTS LOOK LIKE THEY COME FROM SOME IDIOTS MOUTH!
gosh fiddle based horde music, TREASON !
June 7th, 2009
at 5:09 pm
I might sign just so Valve do a PS3 version of Left4Dead. I don’t know how signing will help with that at all, but I’m still signing dammit!
June 7th, 2009
at 5:57 pm
On a completely different note, anyone else notice how the big fella in the back there is a dead ringer for Uncle Phil from fresh Prince? Plus, it’s like a young Ben Affleck right beside him!
June 7th, 2009
at 9:29 pm
LOL
June 7th, 2009
at 9:47 pm
“In an interview with VideoGamer, Gabe Newell did say, “So we’ll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we’ll have the initial release and then we’ll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that’s the way you continue to grow a community over time.” That IS significant content that was mentioned.”
While they didn’t do exactly what is said in that quote, they instead released a game mode, and corresponding achievements plus a new map to go with the new game mode. As of today, Valve hasn’t said they are abandoning L4D either, so the outrage on that issue is a little bit short-sited if you ask me.
That’s a fine thread to run a boycott on if you ask me. It all just seem so absurd.
Fan bitch and moan that it takes too long for content to come out, and then when Valve actually turns something around very timely, it pisses them off even more. You can’t win with this crowd, give em’ an inch they take the whole effing roadway.
June 8th, 2009
at 9:49 am
given the overwhelming success and popularity of the first, despite its few shortcomings, i think they’ve more than earned the benefit of the doubt until Nov 17th.
it’s utterly absurd to reach any intelligent conclusions based on so little available.
according to the august issue of PC Gamer; what we do know, other than what was shown, is that the core team responsible for the first were *very* eager to work on a sequel. Gabe Newell was initially skeptical when presented but believed in their conviction and gave them the ‘thumbs up’.
but if you people still wanna bitch and moan before the game’s even out, by all means boycott. don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
June 8th, 2009
at 11:13 am
I joined just to keep Valve in check. It’s definitely a step down, even if they are in the business of making money - but there’s more than one way to make money.
June 8th, 2009
at 3:36 pm
I would rather have seen a real sequel in 2 or 3 years.
This is basically the same game, but with new characters, weapons and campaign. The stuff we expected Valve to give us as updates after the release of L4D.
Especially considering how expensive L4D was compared to Team Fortress, Day of Defeat or even Counter-Strike: Source, which all got tons of free content as updates
July 20th, 2009
at 9:30 pm
Its basically the same game except everything changed. Omi-San, think before you speak lol.
August 4th, 2009
at 9:21 pm
At anyone who says it is the same game with slightly more features, you can practically say that about any sequel ever made.
I don’t know about you but Left 4 Dead is one of my favorite games for my Xbox 360, I would say it is my second most played game on that thing. So to anyone that says that L4D was an incompleted game is totally wrong, does replay value mean nothing to you? Sure you’ve done it before but it’s still fun the second time, and the third and the fourth and so on.
I agree I would rather play as the original 4 survivors than any of these guys, but that is a matter of my oppinion if you would rather play as one of the new survivors I’m not going to judge you for it.
Alot of you are lieing to yourselves when you say you would rather it come out years from now, if it did come out later you would all be saying “Why can’t it come out tommarow?”
THEY ARE STILL MAKING STUFF FOR THE ORIGINAL L4D GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULLS! Thanks to those that have pointed this out before.
I find what is boils down to is two things. One, when has Valve ever made a bad game? Many would say never. Two, when has an online petition ever changed anyone’s opinion on anything? EVER?
L4D2 is going to be awesome and I would be buying it first day. (If Assassin’s Creed 2 wasn’t coming out at the same time.)
October 11th, 2009
at 2:44 pm
I would not trust a rebuttal towards the L4D2 Boycott coming from a person who uses “retarded” as a descriptive word. Your reasons for the advocacy of the second Left 4 Dead are stale. For example, you say that you “don’t remember being promises anything we didn’t get”. Become educated on the matter before you speak. Valve representatives (mainly Chet Falisek) promised multiple extensions of the original game, some that may be free. However, Survival Pack was barely an extension, adding only one new level (restricted to Survival mode), and two versus levels that should have come with the original game. Crash Course, while adding a mediocre two chapters to play, charged Microsoft Xbox players seven USD, while offering the same pack for free to PC players. The Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott is just and non opinionated, you just can’t seem to get your facts straight.